This may surprise some shooters but didn’t surprise me, as 6.5 mm 140-gr. Dec 7, 2019 12 1. for hunting deer and elk, but they are few except if you create a new Cartridge like the 26 Nosler. November 25, 2019. What’s next for Nosler’s case? by John Barsness - Here I should comment on the difference between the three-shot groups most hunters shoot today, and the five-shot groups required by the American Rifleman testing protocol. With Weatherby dropping all their ammo prices 30%, it is now much more affordable to shoot their calibers. at high muzzle velocities. more than half a century ago. May 29, 2017. None of these advantages by themselves are new, in fact Remington made similar claims when introducing the 7 mm Rem. Such skepticism is apparently a normal reaction in the Internet age, when shooters all over the world can anonymously demonstrate their affected sophistication. 30 NOSLER VS. 300 WIN MAG. The 30 Nosler shoulder is .051" farther back than the 28 Nosler, so the 28 actually has more capacity than the 30. They found the .26 did what Nosler claimed, shooting high-ballistic-coefficient 6.5 mm bullets accurately at very high velocities, making hitting at longer range easier due to less bullet drop and wind drift. It might seem odd for the 175-gr. A more efficient round, offering the same performance as large magnums, but in a shorter cartridge. I know it is an updated 270, but 7mm bullets are much better BC and can shoot up to 195 gr with the 28 vs … magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. Ballistics will go to the 28 my a slim margin, killing power to the 30. to be rechambered. The nosler hammers for a longggg way. FWIW you can now get 28 Nosler brass from a handful of websites at about $2.75-3 a piece but 30 Nosler seems to be out of stock. But Nightforce scopes have proven so tough and reliable that an exception was made, and the scope worked perfectly throughout my testing. In 2014 Nosler introduced the flat-shooting .26 Nosler, following it up in 2015 with the .28 Nosler (7mm) that was based on the .26 case but necked accordingly. Both rifles are zeroed at 200-yard zero. It also turns out that barrels on .26 Nosler rifles last longer than some skeptics predicted, most shooting accurately for at least 1,000 rounds. It also recoils more than the .26 Nosler, something I definitely noticed during the second range session when I sighted-in a new scope on my .26, also a Patriot, using 140-gr. * In order to maintain bullet comparability, all data is based on current Nosler Factory Ammunition loadings for respective calibers. The comparitively low price of the Patriot does not mean it’s an inferior rifle, since it uses the same Model 48 action and Pac-Nor barrel as other Nosler rifles, but unfortunately no factory ammunition was yet available, much less .28 Nosler cases or loading data. Maybe better ES yes. The 28 nosler not too far behind. In order to send the heavy bullet downrange with that much power, The 28 Nosler creates quite a kick. The .28-cal., 175-gr. The Contestants. handloads at around 3300 f.p.s. Partitions, and another brand of 168-gr. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester … Ron Spomer provides an in-depth look at Nosler's 7mm rifle cartridge, the 28 Nosler. The 28 Nosler is based on the 7mm cartridge platform and is .284 caliber. The 30 Nosler also headspaces off the shoulder, improving alignment with the bore. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. magnum such as the .300 WSM. Magnum action vs. standard action. None of these advantages by themselves are new, in fact, Unfortunately, continuing high demand for .26 Noslers (and other Nosler products and projects) slowed the availability of the .28 Nosler. Necking the .26 to 7 mm will increase barrel life somewhat, and provide the same high-performance zip with heavier bullets. In my experience derived from shooting a bunch of rifles, sometimes on indoor ranges where wind isn’t a factor, five-shot groups average about 1.5 times as large as three-shot groups, give or take. The 30 Nosler eclipses the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces of the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like that of the 300 WSM and its in the same standard length action of a 300 W… All I hunt is elk so I prefer the 30 just for the larger bullets. HUGE differences. Several of us got to shoot .28s with ABLR bullets out to 1,000-plus yds., and were very impressed, both in how it minimized wind drift and how hard it whacked steel way out there. 30 caliber. I did some bench comparisons of the two. Just as the 7mm STW is a necked-up version of the 6.5 STW, so it goes with the .28 Nosler and the .26 Nosler. Most big-game animals don’t require half-inch groups at 100 yds., any more than a three-quarter-ton pickup with eight-ply off-road tires is required to haul a whitetail buck. Bolt Action Rifles. 30 Nosler: Nosler = 99 gr. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. Late in summer, however, Nosler listed loading data on its website, and sent along 50 Match Grade brass cases, a set of RCBS dies and a box of 100 175-gr. More Hunting. with the 175, but in this rifle lower velocity definitely resulted in finer accuracy.). I have both, the 30 is going to have much better barrel life. They worked fine on the .28 as well. But the extremely high ballistic coefficient of the 175 ABLR provides more long-range oomph and less wind drift, and to many modern hunters that’s what “Big Sevens” are all about. However, long-range hunters aren’t all that concerned about flat trajectory, since they’ll usually be twisting the elevation turret at longer ranges, and at 500 yds.the 175 starts to drift less. @tom reported 3100 fps with 93 grains of rl33 and a 225 eldm in a 26" barrel. Accuracy is excellent with both. The 28 Nosler. A close cousin of the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler is a larger, more powerful round. The .28 Nosler does exhibit more recoil than most 7 mm magnums, about like a smaller .30-cal. The brass problem could have been solved by necking up some of the supply for my .26 Nosler rifle, but there really isn’t much point in working up loads without data, as traditional methods of “pressure guessing” have proven unreliable since very accurate piezoelectric equipment became the industry standard. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … When filled to the brim, the .28 Nosler case holds 100.7 grains of water versus 99.6 grains for 7mm STW cases made by Remington and 100.2 grains for those from Federal. If you don’t reload I would honestly go with a 300win mag and buy the Berger 215 factory … 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load Data; 308 Marlin Express Load Data; 300 Savage Load Data; 308 Winchester Load Data; 30 Thompson Center Load Data; 30-06 Springfield Load Data; 300 Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) Load Data; 308 Norma Magnum Load Data; 30-06 Springfield Ackley Improved Load Data The powders that would take advantage of the capacity are 50BMG powders that aren't very good. One customer who contacted Nosler even said his still shot well after 1,600. Factory loads, which became available after the author conducted his testing, push the 175-gr. 28 nosler vs 300 prc. The obvious question after the .26 Nosler appeared in 2013 was: “What will the company neck it to next?” The best guesses were a 7 mm or a .30-cal., and the former turned out to be right. Despite predictions from such sophisticates, enough hunters bought .26s to cause a year-long shortage in Nosler 6.5 mm bullets. 28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Winchester Ultra Mag. The 30 Nosler is a SAAMI-standardized cartridge, and Nosler will be supporting this new cartridge with Nosler brass, Trophy Grade ammunition and the full line of M48 rifles. Firing a 210 gr. In the subsequent years, Nosler would release the .28 Nosler (7mm bore diameter), and the .30 Nosler; these two are popular as all-around hunting choices. What they did bring is credible support. Just starting to get some feedback. load to recoil the least, but it used the lightest propellant charge and, unlike the 160-gr. Explore this site to compare these rounds and many others. Remington introduced the RUM series (hugely popular) and then failed to support them with different types of ammo and reloading brass. Not to say the Nosler isn’t any good but just an overall feeling of liking Weatherby more. Designed with a maximum COAL of 3.340 inches, the .308-caliber, rebated-rim centerfire rifle cartridge has a case capacity of 88 grains. to be rechambered. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. Various statisticians have predicted how much larger five-shot groups will average over three-shot groups, but their answers have varied. The .28 Nosler is offered in the M48 Custom Long Range (2015 MSRP $5830), Patriot (2015 MSRP $2895) and Heritage (2015 MSRP $1895) bolt action repeating rifles. The 30 I think just came out not to long ago compared to the 26. Jan 2, 2020 #1 About to purchase a new hunting rifle, and I am looking for pros/cons between the two calibers. Federal Premium Sets Record Straight On Ammunition Shortage, Review: T/C Performance Center Long Range Rifle, Gemtech Integra 15-22 Suppressed Upper Receiver, © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. Mag. It might even out-sell the .26, because American hunters have always been more inclined toward 7 mm than 6.5 mm cartridges. from the muzzle of a 26" test barrel. Unfortunately, it couldn’t be seated anywhere near the lands and still fit in the magazine—a situation I’ve encountered before with that bullet—and the one group I fired with it measured more than 4". Nosler sent its, None of the loads showed the slightest hint of excessive pressure, and a second range session with maximum listed powder charges indicated this rifle might have a little tighter barrel than the one used in Nosler’s tests, as velocities ran a little higher. Yeah, we can use even heavier bullets in .30s, but relatively few shooters are recoil-resistant enough to accurately shoot bullets over 200 grs. Survival. Both rifles are zeroed at 200-yard zero. The Great Ammo Shortage of 2020: When Will It End? Thread starter Drtfarmer; Start date Jan 2, 2020; Forums. Aside from the rifle and bullets, part of the accuracy was no doubt due to case uniformity. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. The 30 Nosler uses exactly the same parent case (.404 Jeffery) as the 26 and 28 Noslers, so it wouldn’t be astonishing to discover the 30 had been part of the plan from the beginning. This can be true, but in reality five-shot groups from any rifle almost always average larger than three-shot groups, even a benchrest rifle capable of shooting groups only slightly larger than bullet diameter. Bolt Action Rifles. Although some projectiles intrude well into the .28 Nosler’s case, its capacity, 97.7 grs. My friend bought the 28 Nosler in the Liberty and he likes how it shoots. or .300 Win. ABLRs, the bullets I tried included the 150-gr. Mag. ABLR to 3125 f.p.s. It actually produces twice the recoil as the smaller 6.5 Creedmoor (see comparison below). The 28 Nosler is running over 100gr of water. Get the American Rifleman Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. bullets, and the first range session served to sight-in the rifle and see its reaction to propellant charge weights slightly below the listed maximums. with the Nightforce, also dampening recoil. Meanwhile, some of us retain a little innate curiosity. the 160 shoots a little flatter than the 175 ABLR and doesn’t drift significantly more in the wind. Given most .30 Nosler loads with decent bullets already end up in the H1000 or Retumbo burn rates, making the case bigger doesn't really appeal to me. Compare these rounds in the charts below. The Contestants. I'm looking to shoot 800yds maybe push it to 900yds. Jan 2, 2020 #1 About to purchase a new hunting rifle, and I am looking for pros/cons between the two calibers. Hunting in Colorado at 8-9kft my 28 has 2100fps and 2000ft/lbs at 1000yards. All four of Nosler's Cartridges, the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, 30 Nosler, and 33 Nosler, are based on … The nosler hammers for a longggg way. @tom reported 3100 fps with 93 … Partitions and Norma 217 ran more than 3400 f.p.s.! At the other end, any action with a somewhat longer magazine, such as a Remington Model 700, provides leeway for “chasing the lands” as the chamber throat erodes—if you’re the kind of shooter who wants to torch off a .28 Nosler often enough to significantly lengthen the throat. The 30 Nosler uses exactly the same parent case (.404 Jeffery) as the 26 and 28 Noslers, so it wouldn’t be astonishing to discover the 30 had been part of the plan from the beginning. The smart money would be on .30 caliber, but .338 might be a possibility. I didn’t test the Patriot at ranges beyond 100 yds., because in July at a joint writer tour hosted by Nosler and Leupold, I spent a large part of one day at a very long shooting range in central Oregon. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … D. Drtfarmer Private. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. AccuBond® Long Range bullet at 3,000 fps with over 4,000 ft.-lbs. Whats more American than apple pie and baseball? Nosler sent its Patriot model to me for testing in the spring of 2015. And the dimensions of the Nosler case also allow any 7 mm Rem. The powders that would take advantage of the capacity are 50BMG powders that aren't very good. Unfortunately, continuing high demand for .26 Noslers (and other Nosler products and projects) slowed the availability of the .28 Nosler. And the dimensions of the Nosler case also allow any 7 mm Rem. The rifle weighed 9 lbs., 4 ozs. The PRC has 1950fps and 1200ft/lbs at 1000yds. The .26 Nosler is pushing the same bullet out of my custom rifle on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Lilga barrel at 3,650 feet per second. (I also suspect the AccuBond Long Range would probably shoot more accurately after some fiddling with seating depth, a common tweak for secant-ogive bullets. There’s nothing as discouraging as a new hunting rifle in the safe with no ammunition to shoot. Partitions and, The .28 Nosler does exhibit more recoil than most 7 mm magnums, about like a smaller .30-cal. At 400 yards, the 6.5 Creedmoor has 18.8 inches of drop and still packs 1,478 foot pounds of energy. Nosler weight-sorts its cases, but I measured the neck thickness of all 50 cases and only a very few varied as much as 0.001". The 280AI is going to run around 68gr of water. As with Double Tap Ammo, the 26 nosler ammo by Double Tap beats Nosler’s by 2.000fps in both the 129 accubonds and the 140 long range accubonds ….3600fps and 3400fps.also for the Nosler 28 ammo. Monday, January 25, 2016. I got a reamer made up to use 28 Nosler brass necked up to 30 (no turn). The old 7mm Rem. ), Traditionalists who don’t shoot much beyond 400 yds., however, might prefer the 160 Partition, a well-proven bullet on big game from Alaska to Africa. Nosler = 95 gr. Most hunters believe (because they’ve been told so time and time again) that groups from sporter-weight barrels open up after three rounds, because the barrel starts to warp from accumulated heat. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Mag. Bertram = 100 gr. Since then, the 26 Nosler® has achieved such renowned success that adding another member to the cartridge family became an obvious decision. In the meantime, the .28 provides plenty of big-game performance in a reasonably packable package—and also a rebore possibility for .26 Nosler owners who eventually shoot out their rifles’ barrels. Dec 7, 2019 12 1. Aside from 175-gr. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. And this is exactly what happened in this rifle, and in fact the dozen or so three-shot groups I fired all measured under an inch, sometimes approaching the magic half-inch. But rifles, cases, propellants and bullets have changed considerably since then, and the .28 Nosler combines all those in a cartridge capable of fitting into a variety of bolt-actions. With the best magnum performance in a standard action, the 30 Nosler was introduced as a more evolved cartridge option. By Ron Spomer. There also happened to be a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope in the safe, ready for testing, but the only 30-mm rings in my rather large collection that combined well with the short-tubed SHV were Weaver Tip-Offs. Just as the 7mm STW is a necked-up version of the 6.5 STW, so it goes with the .28 Nosler and the .26 Nosler. Given most .30 Nosler loads with decent bullets already end up in the H1000 or Retumbo burn rates, making the case bigger doesn't really appeal to me. The propellant capacity (and hence velocity potential) of the .28 Nosler is very close to that of the 7 mm STW (May 2013, p. 84), but not all actions can handle the STW, while the .28 will work in any action with a magazine long enough for the 7 mm Rem. The Nosler Patriot features the company’s proprietary Model 48 action, a Pac-Nor barrel and a pillar-bedded, aramid-fiber stock. Like the .26, the .28 Nosler also fits in a .30-’06 Sprg.-length magazine, providing a couple of advantages. Don't think of the 28 nosler as some new thing... just think of it as what it is: Nosler's version of a 7RUM. I got a reamer made up to use 28 Nosler brass necked up to 30 (no turn). Having bought a 28 nosler a few months ago along with a 6.5 prc, I was reading the new hodgdon manual and read about the 27 nosler. Now I will be the odd man out that has never seen a huge difference in case design as far as performance. Out to 400 yds. One more downside of the 28 Nosler is the scarcity of factory ammunition. No RL-33 could be found locally, but the other propellants did very well. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the world’s big game—with real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. Nosler’s load data included 150-, 160-, 168- and 175-gr. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. Minuteman. As a side note, it’s normally not a good idea to mount an untested scope on a new rifle, because if anomalies occur it’s hard to tell whether the scope or rifle is at fault. See how they compare in the charts below. Bolt lift remained easy, but the velocity indicated pressure might be a little over 65,000 p.s.i., the SAAMI limit for the .28. Like many shooting enthusiasts, the Nosler family has always dreamed of introducing a new rifle cartridge to the industry and in 2014, that finally happened with the arrival of the 26 Nosler®. I'm trying to decide between 280AI or 28 Nosler. They might be an unstylish accessorizing choice when connecting $3,000 of scope and rifle, but through the decades, Weaver’s “old uglies” have performed perfectly on many of my rifles, including a rather light .416 Rem. The 30 Nosler shoulder is.051" farther back than the 28 Nosler, so the 28 actually has more capacity than the 30. I believe the 26 is being produced by Nosler and a few other companies, I don’t think the 28 is yet. I'm kinda new to hand loading, just started at end of last year. Most can handle even heavy 7 mm magnum recoil, however, even though the kick of any 7 mm can hardly be called heavy. The PRC has 1950fps and 1200ft/lbs at 1000yds. The Ultimate Guide to Tanning Wild Game Pelts and Hides. target bullets with a much longer ogive than the Nosler Custom Competition used in Nosler’s testing. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. None of the loads showed the slightest hint of excessive pressure, and a second range session with maximum listed powder charges indicated this rifle might have a little tighter barrel than the one used in Nosler’s tests, as velocities ran a little higher. At 400 yards, the 6.5 Creedmoor has 18.8 inches of drop and still packs 1,478 foot pounds of energy. Since the case mouths of Nosler brass come already chamfered, no prepping was done except to run each neck over the expander ball in the sizing die. Reduced powder mass yields less recoil than other magnum cartridges when shooting the same bullet to the same velocity. Nosler M48 rifles are only built to order; see the Nosler website (www.nosler.com) for details. Nosler's stated goal in the 27 Nosler is to produce a more capable long-range hunting cartridge. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. At the other end, any action with a somewhat longer magazine, such as a Remington Model 700, provides leeway for “chasing the lands” as the chamber throat erodes—if you’re the kind of shooter who wants to torch off a .28 Nosler often enough to significantly lengthen the throat. But many of us insist on both the accuracy and the pickup. All the propellants that Nosler’s data indicated should shoot most accurately were also on hand except for Alliant RL-33, since all but a few spoonfuls of my supply had been shot up testing the .26 Nosler. Mag. (To be fair, Nosler’s data lists muzzle velocities up to 3200 f.p.s. I'm looking at Kimber Hunter 280AI 24" Savage 110 Long Range Hunter 280AI 26" Browning XBolt Western Hunter 28Nosler 26" Nosler Liberty 48 28 Nosler 26" One obvious reason for the .28 Nosler would be the success of the .26 Nosler (December 2014, p. 46). The 26 Nosler vs .270 Winchester vs 7mm Updated Posted on January 7, 2015 by Ed Hale There are those that are proponents of the 6.5mm Cartridges over the .270 WInchester. Nosler Ballistic Tip (among the heavier-jacketed boattails, so a good choice in 7 mm magnums), 160-gr. In 2016 the .30 Nosler was announced, and the latest cartridge to join the Nosler line is the .33 Nosler. Partitions are among the most accurate in my .26 Nosler, and have also shot very well in hundreds of other rifles. Though I think I saw some 30 Nosler ammo for about the same price as the brass = fireformed brass when you do start reloading. The 30 Nosler outperforms the 300 Weatherby in every category, including trajectory, velocity and energy. Add all these factors together, and the 28 Nosler pushes 7 mm bullets capable of taking 99 percent of the world’s big game at very high velocities, with small but real long-range advantages in both trajectory and wind drift compared to .30-cal. Nosler’s accuracy guarantees are for three-shot groups at 100 yds, and they’ll average about two-thirds the size as the five-shot averages listed in the range test data. In fact, the muzzle velocity with 160-gr. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to:EmediaRifleman@nrahq.org For questions/comments about American Rifleman magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Rifleman, visit nramediakit.com for more information. Given the same 150-grain AccuBond bullet only drops 28-inches at 500 yards, it’s safe to say they might have done so with an extraordinary flat-shooting option. Just starting to get some feedback. ADG = 101 gr. The .26 Nosler is pushing the same bullet out of my custom rifle on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Lilga barrel at 3,650 feet per second. magnums using bullets of similar weight. Of course, as soon as Nosler announced the .28 many asked, “Why bother?” since the list of 7 mm big-game rounds compares to the Fortune 500. Properly stress-relieved, sporter-weight barrels (not all are) will keep punching them in there, even when too hot to touch. vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM. Introducing the new 30 Nosler cartridge by popular demand. In 2017, Nosler announced the largest of the family: the .33 Nosler. It also recoils more than the .26 Nosler, something I definitely noticed during the second range session when I sighted-in a new scope on my .26, also a, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program. Since Nosler factory ammunition wasn’t then available, handloads would have to do. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. To my mind, the Nosler offerings didn't add anything new or different in terms of ballistics to the already saturated 28, 30 & 33 calibers. In order to maintain bullet comparability, all data is based on current Nosler factory loadings... 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